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Does Your Four-Year Old Have a Full Time Job?

An article in this morning’s Deseret News revealed that the Social Security Numbers of as many as 600 Utah children under the age of 12 are in use somewhere in the state by someone else. These workers might be using these SSNs mistakenly or they might not…

The real story however, is that Utah law doesn’t provide clear avenues and reasonable tools for the Dept. of Workforce Services to try to correct the mistakes. Workers are afraid of privacy law violations and have no authority to require employers to fix the problems.

So, if your four year old gets a notice from the Social Security Administration saying they worked 2000 hours last year you’ll know why.

Posted by windley on September 21, 2006 11:00 AM

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It wasn't clear from your post, but the issue is that Workforce Services employees are worried about being held in violation of state law for informing people of potential SSN fraud, because doing so would force them to reveal specific information about that SSN. So is the solution to create a new law forcing employers to verify that the SSN aligns with the identity of the employee using it? In this specific case, it seems like they could amend the law to create a child labor exception - the state could use SSN records to enforce child labor laws. I don't know the specifics of Utah law, but it seems like people under 16 are subject to restrictions on working hours in most states.

Comment from eternal vigilance at September 21, 2006 1:43 PM

The problem here is that our Social Security Administration has no incentive to cooperate with fixing this. It equates to asking them to stop accepting free money under the table since illegals will never ask for it back and today's 4 year old will never see a return on it anyway.

What we really need is a way to provide incentive for SSA, DHS, FBI, INS, and CPS to participate in fixing this. I think one way is to provide financial incentive for getting involved. Similar to how we can seize assets from drug dealers and then use it to clean up our streets, organizations partnering in this fight against identity theft should be allowed to sieze the money that has already been paid into social security by identity thieves.

Here's a SQL query for starters:

SELECT E.NAME,E.PHONE,T.NAME FROM EMPLOYERS AS E, TAXPAYERS AS T WHERE T.AGE<12 AND T.EMPLOYERID=E.ID ORDER BY E.NAME, T.NAME

Pass this list to CPS (note it does not include any Social Security Numbers, just names of children who are likely being victimized in some way) and have them call down the list during school hours. Provide a simple telemarketing script. It starts by asking to speak with each name on the list. If they pass the phone to a child, they're likely in violation of child labor law or maybe in Utah you uncover some polygamous tax fraud scheme. CPS wins. If they tell you they've never heard of that person, they're likely employing an illegal who gave them a bogus SSN. INS wins. If it's a terrorist, DHS wins. And if none of the above pan out at the very least CPS can call the parents and inform them that their child's SSN may have been stolen and used by such-and-such employer, even though they do not know or have access to what the SSN is. Once you get parents involved, you'll start moving heaven and earth on this issue.

The beauty of a system like this is that it can support itself, being paid for by the money illegals themselves are already paying into the system. Additional revenue could likely be generated by fining the most egregious employers. Any excess above the cost of administering the program, can go towards funds targeted towards helping parents and children recover from identity theft, and making it easier and safer for honest hardworking people who want to participate in our American dream to become naturalized citizens.

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